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Rising Dark Night At Dark Knight Rises – A Right To Bear Arms
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Rising Dark Night at Dark Knight Rises – A Right to Bear Arms

What caused a man to buy 4 weapons and six thousand rounds, and then to use them on innocent people? These, bought legally, all within a reputed sixty days, managed to pass any form of suspicion, within a system in a country where the right to bear arms, protected.

The reputed perpetrator, is an educated man, recently dropped out of a Ph.D. graduate school, who left his home booby-trapped, knowing he was going into custody after committing a heinous crime. He was apparently arrested behind the cinema where the crime took place, without any resistance to the arrest. Was this man looking to get into prison, could he not have rather committed a less horrific crime? A mental case, “lost his mind” his lawyers will no doubt claim, but then if that’s the case, how could he buy four weapons, and six thousand rounds?

The United States constitution, the second amendment to that constitution, gives citizens the right to bear arms, and on the purchasing of these arms, certain checks carried out. Am I then to believe, that a person can buy so many weapons in such a short time period, without a red light going off in the FBI computer room? Surely this is a basic step that the Governing body has in place to combat internal terrorism. All searches I have done on the internet, re a weapon purchase, all comment on paper work required, and checks requiring attention.

One would think that this'll alert a State that someone is over arming himself, preparing to start a small war. The tragic events of the 20th July, at the showing of the film “Dark Knight Rises” was surely a rising dark night, one that will go down in the history of the USA. My astonishment, or amazement, centres around the fact that this is not a first, yet the deeds allowed repeating.

If this man has a mental problem, then surely he shouldn’t be allowed to buy a gun of any sort, which is what the laws seem to say. Yet, he can buy 4 with enough ammunition to start a small conflict. At the age of twenty-four, he is able to get ownership of an assault rifle, AR-15, a shotgun, and two Glock .40-calibre hand guns.

A Glock .40-calibre hand gun will stop almost anything coming at it, and at the same time do major damage. A shot-gun loaded with “buck shot” could almost cut a man in half at close range, but in the confines of a cinema, at a longer range can cause major damage to multiple people. An AR-15 assault rifle, this weapon when first developed entered as the more well-known M16 used by the USA military, this weapon has been to war.

Surely such a weapon choice should set alarm bells off in the halls of those that check on citizens purchasing weapons? In a country like South Africa, if you wish to buy a firearm, forms completed, certificates of competency in its use and then, a full check within the police department before licence issued. This can take up to three months, yet a certain amount of safety is built into the system.

Is it not time for the USA to revise their licensing methods, the right to bear arms, is not a right to kill, but a right to protect oneself. I would have thought the act of enjoying oneself at the theatre, would not need the carrying of a hand gun to protect oneself against a possible assault rifle attack during the entertainment.

I sympathise with all the families that have lost members or who have members critically wounded, or for that matter slightly wounded. I also, however, sympathise with all that have been through the traumatic event, a mental wound's been incurred by all in the theatre. A traumatic experience for America, that such tragedy can occur when they have soldiers posted all over the world attempting to bring peace to all.


Street Talk

S. Gray  

Don't you know, Rob? The Constitution and the 2nd amendment have been trampled upon by the plutocrats who have been running this country for more than a century. We no longer have a Democracy where one has the right to bear arms. Thanks to Homeland Security and all the other idiotic legislation mandated by the Bush/Cheny administration that was created to "protect" us from those big, bad "terrorists", all of the rights afforded us by our founding fathers have been trampled upon. We live in a plutocracy where our politicians and bureaucrats can be bought and sold like yesterday's news. I hate to break it to you Rob, the real terrorists, and the ones you should protect yourself from, are the government officials who take their orders from the filthy rich corporate elitists who run the Federal Reserve, which is no more "federal" than Federal Express.

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  about 9 years ago

I think the i want it and I want it now attitude of this country is finally showing it's ugly head in all areas.

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  about 9 years ago

Agreed Shawn, I see in the news and on the Internet that Obama has the power to introduce stronger laws and better investigations into licencing laws, but appears to be scared of taking on the Gun forums... seems a pity that this is not happening and one wonders how much of this has to do with the upcoming elections...

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  about 9 years ago

The government watch dog, not really sure what they are watching but obvisiously not what they should be watching. Can any system be abused of course it can, but come on self protection no one seen red flags with this. Who the hell sold this to him, think he might have been a bit suspicious of why, I am sure more than we know have these types of weapons and more. Home grown terrorism...the reasoning behind this will be naturally insane to the rest of us, but to the freak......??????????Why Why will be asked for years to come....a damn shame..

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  about 9 years ago

Yes Tim I read last night that most of his ammo and protective clothes he bought over the internet, the weapons from shops all legal apparently, but no body knows where all the booby trap stuff came from... but it does show that if you want to you can almost legally arm an army in the US and start an internal war.... Jeez I think they seriously need to realign their laws...

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  about 9 years ago
AnnMarie  

It's scary that no one spotted the inordinate amount of ammo he purchased or the types of weapons. Reminiscent of the way the pilots on the planes on 911 trained to fly but no one noticed that they didn't care to learn how to land. I'm not against owning firearms but the regulators should be more diligent about it. How about assessing people's mental stability in some way first? The types of firearms they want to buy gives a heads up to the intended purpose. There's a difference between a rifle used for hunting deer and an AR-14 for crying out loud!

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  about 9 years ago

I agree AnnMarie, I'm not saying discard the amendment, but investigate the circumstances, test the person and ensure they are competent to own a weapon. That's what happens here, it might take up to six months for a license, but if you are awarded one they know all about it... 911 a good example a few citizens can arm a small army with the present system, and then start a small war.. can you picture 10 men armed to the teeth in NYC at rush hour opening up with weapons like this guy had... 6000 rounds boy one could cause pandemonium...

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  about 9 years ago
AnnMarie  

It's a scary world, Rob. We actually don't know for sure things like that aren't happening.

  
  about 9 years ago
Golfspice  

Surely it is safer to have stricter gun laws. Why would anyone want a gun or the right to own a gun, unless they have a justifiable reason for having one?

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  about 9 years ago

I agree entirely with you on that one..."why why why" I'm sure the words of the wounded, survivors and families of all....

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  about 9 years ago

A few years ago there was a massacre at Port Arthur (Tasmania) in Australia. The shock to our country was great and gun laws were swiftly changed and tightened. People were forced to hand in or license their weapons and need a darn good reason for having one (such as being on the land). Do I think this is an affront to our freedom? Absolutely not. I feel safer and I know my kids are safer. The odds of being shot by accident or mistake is greatly diminished. If an 'innocent' citizen is threatened they won't live their lives regretting a panicked misfiring of their weapon. I don't think we have ever had the random crazed shootings that we hear in the media coming out of the US. Our children don't grow up with 'the right' to carry arms in case they should need them against their fellow citizen. Yes, people of ill intent will get a gun if they want one. This goes for anything in life. This is the minority and luckily when these people are apprehended the police have a leg to stand on in prosecuting them. How can anyone promote world peace and then say the way to it is to pack a gun?

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  about 9 years ago

Trust you to get the very point I'm trying to get across... the Americas are long out of the wild west era, and second amendments made back in the time of the war of independence, need a strong reality check... those that were killed and injured never went to the movies thinking some idiot was going to pop up and shoot at them, if they did they would all go armed, can you imagine what that could have done if a gun fight had broken out in a packed cinema? God forbid, let those that will live life peacefully be protected rather by an amendment that says no one may bear arms...

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  about 9 years ago

Good article about a terrible and bewildering event...how is this stuff happening in the schools and anywhere....good article...thanks for the view...I do believe in everyone's right to bear arms because like it was said here...the bad guys would be the only ones with the guns...and we do need law and order...about the people on antidepressants..I do not see limiting anyone from having a gun...declared sane...but maybe a process of shrink talks to those on certain drugs could be helpful...If they are going to pass out all these drugs like candy then maybe we do have waaaay too many people currently with mentally unstable kinds of problems that might turn to this....why not monitor them until we find a way to get these people off these drugs and to a mentally healthy state again....I traveled this country alone as a musician and don't think that I might have had a gun to protect myself? There are also many crooked cops...they are the ones that really scare me..Just one of the many reasons I resorted to living on an island and not in a city where these things happen...Had my fill of living and being where this stuff occurs...get out of the cities...when you live in rural america people all know each other...it is a nice feeling

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  about 9 years ago

Thanks Sister, not advocating a repel of the amendment, just a tightening of the issuing of licenses, but then if one is going to protect yourself against such idiots you need to carry the weapon on you at all times... then again, are we all qualified to determine what is a life threatening act, so that you can pull out your gun and shoot in self defence? This could turn the country back to the old wild west days if not kept in check... don't live in a city, I agree with you there but then again in our country more people are murdered on farms than in the city, so now what? I still don't advocate the free issuing of arms and weapons, apply for a license and prove yourself worthy of owning a weapon, this will stop idiots and terrorist from killing indiscriminately...

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  about 9 years ago
Kyle  

In Canada, our gun laws are far more restrictive. In fact, unless you hunt, you don't have a gun. The only guns that are in the hands of civilians are those that are illegal, typically brought up through the US where access to guns is a free for all. I am not sure what the answer is, but having more guns creates more gun violence....there should be no argument to this. It is like saying that having a lot of fast food restaurants doesn't make people fat. It does...and guns make people shoot...people don't shoot without guns. I know there are many arguments against gun laws (1st ammendment, protect yourself in situations like this), but isn't this living your life scared if you have to walk around and protect yourself. Should we just get rid of the police force and all protect ourselves. This is a ludicrist argument in many respects and there are is a reason why US has the highest rate of gun crimes out of any developed nation, double the death rate of Canada. If it weren't for the fact that we could cross the border and get guns so easily here, I think the death rate in Canada from gun violence would be even that much lower. More guns = more gun crime. A formula a 1st grader could figure out.

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  about 9 years ago

Yes Kyle I agree with you, why have the police force arm yourself and return to the old world days reputed to have happened in the American west.. shoot from the hip and ask questions after... I live in a country where terrorism was a way of life in the passed, weapons could be purchased but only with good reason and proof of training, even then you could not carry it around with you, it had to be kept in a gun safe in your residence, i.e. self defence at home, the chances being if someone broke into the house you hardly had time to open the safe for defence, so yes it was hardly worth keeping a gun for defence, mine where for hunting, of which in younger years I enjoyed (hunt with the camera now) and do not own a weapon anymore. The USA has been hit by terrorism, 9/11 etc, but their free purchase of weapons certainly enables those bent on causing havoc, free and easy access. To buy and own a weapon in our country now takes nearly 6 months before a license is issued, and then its only if well motivated, you carry a gun here and the Police find you, stand with your hands high in the air, if not they're going to kill you...

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  about 9 years ago
joe witt  

Hey Rob, another great article, thought I'd add my two sense since I live in Wyoming not two hours from Aurora. First an Ar-15 rifle is not an assault rifle in the civilian version, it's only single shot. If it was fully automatic then it was done illegally. Second, in a close quartered crowded theater the shotgun he had would have done more widespread damage then then Ar-15. In addition almost all of the mass shootings over the last decade or so were done in posted "gun free" zones. Virginia Tech, Aurora,etc. The big problem is that the law abiding citizens of this country are the ones who will take training and be legal. The criminals will get guns illegally or break rules if they get guns legally. You can't restrict everyone else's rights because of some nut job who occasionally goes off the deep end. I'm with the other people who commented that it sure would have been nice if a law abiding and gun packing citizen would have been in that theater.

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  about 9 years ago

I'm fully aware of the state of the AR-15 single shot semi auto rifle, but the USA saw its potential and used it in fully auto as a weapon of war... dangerous... The shotgun in a confined space ... deadly... a Glock -40 wow he was bent on killing not wounding... as a bit of a passed expert on weapons, having owned and used many different sorts... this was not a self protection purchase but a person bent on destruction... I do not advocate the repeal and removal of the second amendment, but boy I certainly feel a tightening of the rules or licencing is required... that an individual can purchase so much in such a short period, for defense? Sorry Joe to me there's something wrong with the system... Citizen bent on destroying the country or its government, can openly buy up guns and ammo to start a small internal war... surely the protection of the citizens of the country carries more weight than allowing any idiot bent on destructing the lives of innocent people... I'm sorry but it just amazes me that people are allowed to do that there, 4 guns and 6000 rounds in 60 days... amazing...

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  about 9 years ago
joe witt  

In Switzerland and Israel almost every citizen is armed but these kind of crimes are almost unheard of, sorry but it's not the guns its the culture. Disarming the law abiding citizens and letting only the government have guns is not the way I would want to go. You say that the protection of the citizen carries more weight then some idiot bent on destruction, I agree. But there is no humanly way for the police to be everywhere at once or to respond immediately, therefore the law abiding citizen should have the right to protect himself.

  
  about 9 years ago

I agree Joe, but if a more through search was done on licensing and license applications, mass purchases would be picked up more quickly... I'm not saying stop the law abiding citizen the right to buy a gun, but it is easy enough to have a stricter system of application to buy and carry...

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  about 9 years ago
Joan S  

Ironic, isn't it? This is the second one to happen in Colorado. They need to tighten up their gun license laws or something. New York makes it very tough to get a license. Surprised someone in the audience didn't have a gun. It is the "west", after all. I saw a picture of this kid, and he looks like an average young student. Who would have known? Nothing has come out yet as to his motivation. Tragic, all round.

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  about 9 years ago

The photo is almost film star like, its actually frightening... need to tighten those laws I think as this type of disaster is unwanted.. the poor people that go out for an evening will now of necessity have to carry guns... if that audience had of had a gun toting crowd, it would have been more disastrous, guns a blazing in all directions could have caused a bigger death toll..

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  about 9 years ago
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